Comments on: Choosing to butt in vs. keeping your opinion to yourself. http://www.beans-etc.com/fangirl/2010/03/choosing-to-butt-in-vs-keeping-your-opinion-to-yourself/ Wed, 21 Dec 2011 06:21:10 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: Brenna http://www.beans-etc.com/fangirl/2010/03/choosing-to-butt-in-vs-keeping-your-opinion-to-yourself/comment-page-1/#comment-2735 Brenna Tue, 23 Mar 2010 17:20:06 +0000 http://www.beans-etc.com/fangirl/?p=1777#comment-2735 <i>If it's not legal, then use your judgement on whether voicing your opinion will get you knifed and beaten.</i> Truth. *LOL* If it's not legal, then use your judgement on whether voicing your opinion will get you knifed and beaten.

Truth. *LOL*

]]> By: Alfvaen http://www.beans-etc.com/fangirl/2010/03/choosing-to-butt-in-vs-keeping-your-opinion-to-yourself/comment-page-1/#comment-2734 Alfvaen Tue, 23 Mar 2010 17:16:30 +0000 http://www.beans-etc.com/fangirl/?p=1777#comment-2734 If you have one person berating a person for letting their kids smoke, you'll have someone else berating them for not going to church, or voting Liberal, or having premarital sex. I think there's a limit to how much you can try to superimpose your value systems on someone else. I think the line should be about where things stop being legal--if it's legal, stop trying to get strangers to stop doing it. If it's not legal, then use your judgement on whether voicing your opinion will get you knifed and beaten. If you have one person berating a person for letting their kids smoke, you'll have someone else berating them for not going to church, or voting Liberal, or having premarital sex. I think there's a limit to how much you can try to superimpose your value systems on someone else. I think the line should be about where things stop being legal--if it's legal, stop trying to get strangers to stop doing it. If it's not legal, then use your judgement on whether voicing your opinion will get you knifed and beaten.

]]> By: Lance http://www.beans-etc.com/fangirl/2010/03/choosing-to-butt-in-vs-keeping-your-opinion-to-yourself/comment-page-1/#comment-2732 Lance Tue, 23 Mar 2010 16:14:28 +0000 http://www.beans-etc.com/fangirl/?p=1777#comment-2732 There's nothing wrong with being wrong. There's nothing wrong with being wrong.

]]> By: Ashley http://www.beans-etc.com/fangirl/2010/03/choosing-to-butt-in-vs-keeping-your-opinion-to-yourself/comment-page-1/#comment-2731 Ashley Tue, 23 Mar 2010 16:14:08 +0000 http://www.beans-etc.com/fangirl/?p=1777#comment-2731 I would never try and tell someone how to parent. I would only stand up and say something if there were abuse involved. My parents allowed me to drink before it was legal; I'm sure some people would call that bad parenting, but many would disagree. There's no real right or wrong in how to raise your children, just a big grey area with varying shades of light and dark. Everyone has different values and raise their children according to them. The lady did invite the conversation in, and it just made sense for the bus driver to give his opinion, given the direction the conversation went. I'm a fan of minding my own business, although it's mainly because I don't like confrontation. I've heard grade 8 girls sitting on the bus discussing the sex they've had (which I fundamentally disagree with). It's not my business to mother them, that's their mothers' jobs. I hear people talking about doing drugs (which I fundamentally disagree with) but it's not my business to act as their moral guide. People are perfectly capable of making their own choices, and they definitely wouldn't like me butting in and telling them how to run their lives. I definitely wouldn't. I believe in tolerance of different attitudes and cultures, except when it violates basic human rights ie. abuse. Just my 2 cents. :) I would never try and tell someone how to parent. I would only stand up and say something if there were abuse involved. My parents allowed me to drink before it was legal; I'm sure some people would call that bad parenting, but many would disagree. There's no real right or wrong in how to raise your children, just a big grey area with varying shades of light and dark. Everyone has different values and raise their children according to them.

The lady did invite the conversation in, and it just made sense for the bus driver to give his opinion, given the direction the conversation went. I'm a fan of minding my own business, although it's mainly because I don't like confrontation. I've heard grade 8 girls sitting on the bus discussing the sex they've had (which I fundamentally disagree with). It's not my business to mother them, that's their mothers' jobs. I hear people talking about doing drugs (which I fundamentally disagree with) but it's not my business to act as their moral guide. People are perfectly capable of making their own choices, and they definitely wouldn't like me butting in and telling them how to run their lives. I definitely wouldn't. I believe in tolerance of different attitudes and cultures, except when it violates basic human rights ie. abuse.

Just my 2 cents. :)

]]> By: Brenna http://www.beans-etc.com/fangirl/2010/03/choosing-to-butt-in-vs-keeping-your-opinion-to-yourself/comment-page-1/#comment-2730 Brenna Tue, 23 Mar 2010 16:10:51 +0000 http://www.beans-etc.com/fangirl/?p=1777#comment-2730 Just to clarify, this post in specifically aimed at the situation where a third party could conceivably in jeopardy from a person's actions, whether that be mentally, physically, or emotionally. Anything minor for the most part, like randomly insulting a stranger's shoes, is just plain rude IMO and they should go fuck themselves. :P Just to clarify, this post in specifically aimed at the situation where a third party could conceivably in jeopardy from a person's actions, whether that be mentally, physically, or emotionally. Anything minor for the most part, like randomly insulting a stranger's shoes, is just plain rude IMO and they should go fuck themselves. :P

]]> By: Brenna http://www.beans-etc.com/fangirl/2010/03/choosing-to-butt-in-vs-keeping-your-opinion-to-yourself/comment-page-1/#comment-2729 Brenna Tue, 23 Mar 2010 16:06:48 +0000 http://www.beans-etc.com/fangirl/?p=1777#comment-2729 You see? I agree with points from all three of you! D: I think that if someone feels they need to intercede that they need to handle the situation and their words with tact and respect; and I honestly do believe that there are situations where if no one else is coming to the plate that someone -- even a stranger -- should step up. I think that, depending on the situation (Vance brings up an excellent point with the smoking for a recovering drug addict) you need to keep in mind that you don't know the details, and could potentially be righteously wading into something completely uninformed, and in turn, wrongly. Again, I think this varies strongly on the encounter itself and how much you may believe that the well being of another is actually being threatened or not. You see? I agree with points from all three of you! D: I think that if someone feels they need to intercede that they need to handle the situation and their words with tact and respect; and I honestly do believe that there are situations where if no one else is coming to the plate that someone -- even a stranger -- should step up.

I think that, depending on the situation (Vance brings up an excellent point with the smoking for a recovering drug addict) you need to keep in mind that you don't know the details, and could potentially be righteously wading into something completely uninformed, and in turn, wrongly. Again, I think this varies strongly on the encounter itself and how much you may believe that the well being of another is actually being threatened or not.

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